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Where are all the men? 
GranolaJoe
posted Feb 11, 2008 10:23:19 AMTo All
There's a really good article over at YogaJournal about men and their reluctance to get into Yoga as much as women. It's a great topic, and here's some info on it:

"Andrew Tilin knows how good yoga can be for him – his wife is an instructor and he sees her blissful post-session transformation from stressful to happy week in, week out – yet he hasn’t practiced regularly for years. Tilin explores fears and anxieties that keep men from doing yoga, and ways some instructors make it fun and comfortable so they never skip another class again."

For those of you taking yoga classes - are your groups split down the middle, or have you noticed that there are a lot more women in class? Or has anyone experienced the opposite, where there are more men than women?

What do you personally think are reasons for which it takes more convincing for guys to get on the mat?
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Where are all the men? 
opensecret
posted Mar 30, 2008 12:47:21 PMTo All

In my classes there has always been a balance of men and women. I tend to be very hands on and keep things lite and playful while at the same time very focused. I have noticed that men tend to sweat a lot more especially when they are new to yoga. That could be one reason maybe they feel uncomfortable sweating so much in mixed company.  The men who have been in my class seem a lot harder on themselves when they feel they aren't measuring up and I address that too. To me this is the mind part of yoga - facing the thoughts that come up - the good the bad and the ugly. They are all welcome. Two other situations a bit more rare but I would imagine a bit of a concern for some is that in savasana men tend to snore and the other is when most of their body is lying down and only a part is standing up I can imagine those would be other reasons that if I were a guy I would tend to feel less relaxed and maybe a bit self-conscious instead. But I don't know. What do you all feel when those things happen? As an instructor my efforts are always to create a feeling of a safe place where you can accept  whatever is happening. Maybe that is why most of my guys come back to my class.  But men who have never been don't know this is the case. Most people don't realize how taken care of and how non-judgemental a good class can be!

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Where are all the men? 
GranolaJoe
posted Apr 1, 2008 11:09:32 AMTo All



On Mar 30, 2008 12:47:21 PM opensecret wrote:

In my classes there has always been a balance of men and women. I tend to be very hands on and keep things lite and playful while at the same time very focused. I have noticed that men tend to sweat a lot more especially when they are new to yoga. That could be one reason maybe they feel uncomfortable sweating so much in mixed company. The men who have been in my class seem a lot harder on themselves when they feel they aren't measuring up and I address that too. To me this is the mind part of yoga - facing the thoughts that come up - the good the bad and the ugly. They are all welcome. Two other situations a bit more rare but I would imagine a bit of a concern for some is that in savasana men tend to snore and the other is when most of their body is lying down and only a part is standing up I can imagine those would be other reasons that if I were a guy I would tend to feel less relaxed and maybe a bit self-conscious instead. But I don't know. What do you all feel when those things happen? As an instructor my efforts are always to create a feeling of a safe place where you can accept whatever is happening. Maybe that is why most of my guys come back to my class. But men who have never been don't know this is the case. Most people don't realize how taken care of and how non-judgemental a good class can be!



I think it's great that you create such a safe space for men to take part in yoga. I bet many of the men in your class wouldn't have learned to enjoy it so much if it weren't for your welcoming and guidance.

As you've mentioned, men can be self conscious. It is our nature to be competitive, or oftentimes, to hold ourselves to unrealistic standards. I can imagine many men practicing yoga for the first time may be disappointed if they cannot complete routines perfectly, while seeing that their more advanced classmates can do so with greater ease.

Also, it's much harder for people like myself, especially, to simply let go at first. When I am practicing with my fiancee, I let my sense of humor show and give myself room when I don't do things perfectly. However, if I were in a class full of people, I think I would push myself more and wonder if anyone noticed when I made mistakes, or if I am progressing as much as others.
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jamesgirl
posted Apr 11, 2008 6:01:36 AMTo All

i have been in several yoga classes at different studios and the YMCA... and women tended to outnumber the men about 3 to 1......


also men tended to be less flexible even after doing yoga for about the same length of time as the women....  (i am talking some of these people have been doing yoga consistently for five years) but the class i was in was mostly seniors at the Y.... at other studios i didn't notice the men having lesser flexibility as much....


 


women can be very competitive too you know... at least i know i judge myself.. especially in the senior class when almost everyone can touch there toes in forward bends whereas i have  very tight hamstrings and calves and have ever since a back injury a few years ago....  unfortunately i already had a "bad back" when i came to yoga....and i just made it worse that day by doing a lot of forward bends and one intense backbend... the next day i couldn't walk or touch my toes anymore... the doctor said my hamstrings were tight.... it was like something pulled my whole system.... i have to baby my back before yoga doing a lot of cat cows....rolling on my back and doing side twists on my back.... otherwise the forward bends will still cause me great back problems....  i have learned to listen to my body... now i need to learn some compassion and patience with my body...


 


good luck to you and your yoga practice!


jamesgirl

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soapwood
posted Jun 21, 2008 10:22:05 AMTo All

I can only reply on behalf of my caveman husband that "its girly, moving like that and holding poses. Where's the boxing gloves and weight benches, that's what I want"


<sigh>


He actually used to be into martial arts and meditation...maybe he got hit too hard in boxing one time and that got wiped out of his memory. On the rare occasion that I've gotten him to try Kundalini Yoga with me here at home, which I thought was pretty darn easy, he complains the whole time he's trying to do it, he's huffing and puffing, has bad form, can't hold any of the poses for more than 2 seconds and frankly, he's a little embarrassed because of it. He wants to be able to do something good and do it good quickly.


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Where are all the men? 
GranolaJoe
posted Jun 23, 2008 9:04:47 AMTo All



He wants to be able to do something good and do it good quickly.
I can certainly relate. Even though I'm a pretty patient guy when it comes to new activities/disciplines/sports that I want to try out, there are moments when I just feel like giving up because I'm not performing to the unreasonably high standard I've set for myself in my head.

One of the sports I enjoy most is climbing, no matter how much it has been like a love/hate relationship. Getting myself up a rock is exhilarating and the feeling of finishing a route is extremely rewarding. However, when my arms get tired and give up on me, or when I depend on a rope too much, I feel like quitting. Even though I've only been at it for about two years, I want to climb like someone that has 5+ years of experience.

I think your husband is experiencing something similar
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Where are all the men? 
Cherre
posted Jun 26, 2008 1:15:15 PMTo All
Just a guess, but maybe yoga classes taught by men get more male students. My usual class has quite a few men. Still, the women dominate. I think being naturally flexible makes yoga easier faster...and most men can't even sit comfortably cross legged. It's an extra challenge for them, and probably does keep many away who would otherwise like to try yoga.

I've thought about doing an all-men class where we use chairs and stay away from poses that are tricky or embarrassing for the guys. But then I think, maybe a man should teach that class!
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Where are all the men? 
soapwood
posted Jul 10, 2008 7:16:13 AMTo GranolaJoe

Oh yeah, you guys got something in common there all right!


I think it's great that you can climb! To be honest, that was never a strong point for me, having strength in my arms for something other than lifting. Now, that being said, I did always win the rope climb in elementary school where we had to climb the rope that was attached to the ceiling. But as for push-ups and pull-ups and things of that sort, I could barely get a couple in.


One thing I learned doing Kundalini yoga...smile when it gets hard. It completely lifts your thoughts. I also look at things now like a complete learning experience, from start to whenever I finish. If I finish before I wanted to, there's always next time and at least I made an effort today to try. My goal for myself is to just try and to get as far as I can, that way I hardly ever disappoint myself ;o)

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